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Fight outside pub leads to arrests
TWO men were arrested after a punch-up outside a pub.
Police are investigating if the fight outside the Duke of York, in Southend Road, Billericay, is linked to an earlier incident at the pub, which led to a man being bottled.
Essex Police spokesman Nishan Wijeratne said: "Officers were called by a concerned member of the public following reports of a disturbance outside the Duke of York on Saturday at 11.55pm.
"Two men from Billericay, aged 33 and 37, were arrested on suspicion of assault."
The men from the Oak Lane traveller site, in Crays Hill, were released on bail until April pending further inquiries.
Five people were arrested on March 2 following an assault at the site and a bottling at the pub. They were also bailed until April.
The fighting is believed to be linked to a feud between two rival families from the site.
Mr Wijeratne added: "Investigating officers are looking closely at both incidents to see if there are related matters."
9:12am Thursday 27th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: me, bas on 10:29am Thu 27 Mar 08
ha ha, they cant even get on with each other let alone the rest of the community.
ha ha, they cant even get on with each other let alone the rest of the community.
Posted by: Peter, Billericay on 11:10am Thu 27 Mar 08
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring?
That pub should lose its licence.
Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring?
That pub should lose its licence.
Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?
Posted by: Sarah, Billericay on 11:22am Thu 27 Mar 08
Oh and who do we think is paying for the police to investigate this matter? Certainly not the so-called 'travellers' as they don't know the meaning of the word 'taxpayer'.
Oh and who do we think is paying for the police to investigate this matter? Certainly not the so-called 'travellers' as they don't know the meaning of the word 'taxpayer'.
Posted by: Brad, Runwell on 12:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Pikey's get lost from Essex , go and live in Stratford you dirty non-paying scroats
Pikey's get lost from Essex , go and live in Stratford you dirty non-paying scroats
Posted by: Brad, Runwell on 12:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Pikey's get lost from Essex , go and live in Stratford you dirty non-paying scroats
Pikey's get lost from Essex , go and live in Stratford you dirty non-paying scroats
Posted by: Brad, Runwell on 12:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Pikey's get lost from Essex , go and live in Stratford you dirty non-paying scroats
Pikey's get lost from Essex , go and live in Stratford you dirty non-paying scroats
Posted by: les, basildon on 2:09pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote:
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?[/quote] Why should the pub lose its licence just because of a few mindless customers. Its not the pubs fault it's got a load of pikeys living nearby.
Peter wrote:
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?
Why should the pub lose its licence just because of a few mindless customers. Its not the pubs fault it's got a load of pikeys living nearby.
Posted by: Firestorm, Southend on 2:13pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Blimey, When I lived round that neck of the woods the Duke was the posh one of the three
Blimey, When I lived round that neck of the woods the Duke was the posh one of the three
Posted by: Judge Dredd on 4:11pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]les[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote: Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?[/quote] Why should the pub lose its licence just because of a few mindless customers. Its not the pubs fault it's got a load of pikeys living nearby.[/quote] The place is a known trouble spot.
I wonder how many witnesses will come forward to this crime?
Let me think...
les wrote:
Peter wrote: Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?
Why should the pub lose its licence just because of a few mindless customers. Its not the pubs fault it's got a load of pikeys living nearby.
The place is a known trouble spot.
I wonder how many witnesses will come forward to this crime?
Let me think...
Posted by: bonzer, essex on 4:28pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote:
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?[/quote] If it's the Dale Farm Judicial Review date you're after,any time now,according to the Echo.
http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/search/displa
y.var.2042816.0.trav
ellers_at_high_court
_day_3.php
Peter wrote:
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?
If it's the Dale Farm Judicial Review date you're after,any time now,according to the Echo.
http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/search/displa
y.var.2042816.0.trav
ellers_at_high_court
_day_3.php
Posted by: Kim Gandy, Rayleigh on 5:11pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Oh come on, infighting and feuds are part of their "culture". Didn't you know that?
I am sure if you think hard enough you can come up with a whole list of things that are part of their "culture".
I've covered this before. Sure I haven't missed anything, or have I?
As for the landlord and his licence. He has been happy to allow them to drink there for years.
It is surely the landlord's prerogative as to who he allows in his pub.
And you can't argue that perhaps he's scared.
They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome.
Now we can see why.
But of course, the do gooders will be here in droves shortly to tell us how fights happen in the wider community.
However, before starting the usual anti racist bigot rant - go and speak to the people who live in the vicinity of the Duke of York.
They will certainly be able to enlighten you, if "enlighten" is the right word.
Oh come on, infighting and feuds are part of their "culture". Didn't you know that?
I am sure if you think hard enough you can come up with a whole list of things that are part of their "culture".
I've covered this before. Sure I haven't missed anything, or have I?
As for the landlord and his licence. He has been happy to allow them to drink there for years.
It is surely the landlord's prerogative as to who he allows in his pub.
And you can't argue that perhaps he's scared.
They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome.
Now we can see why.
But of course, the do gooders will be here in droves shortly to tell us how fights happen in the wider community.
However, before starting the usual anti racist bigot rant - go and speak to the people who live in the vicinity of the Duke of York.
They will certainly be able to enlighten you, if "enlighten" is the right word.
Posted by: Peter, Billericay on 5:24pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]les[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote:
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?[/quote] Why should the pub lose its licence just because of a few mindless customers. Its not the pubs fault it's got a load of pikeys living nearby.[/quote] Obviously Les you have not used that pub in the last couple of years or you would realise that its ONLY customers are Travellers.(they have driven all the local trade away with their fighting swearing urinating up or placing of glasses on customers cars in the car park ,defecation in the urinals,breaking toilets and windows, punching in doors, throwing glasses out of cars into the Main Road when leaving late at night because no Taxi company will attend knowing the problems their drivers have encountered in the past shall I go on!)
This used to be a lovely old pub and it is a great shame that Grays and Sons the owners and the manager they appointed have let it slip so badly.
les wrote:
Peter wrote:
Is that what the Duke of York wants the extension for, a fighting ring? That pub should lose its licence. Does anyone know when the date of the findings of the review due?
Why should the pub lose its licence just because of a few mindless customers. Its not the pubs fault it's got a load of pikeys living nearby.
Obviously Les you have not used that pub in the last couple of years or you would realise that its ONLY customers are Travellers.(they have driven all the local trade away with their fighting swearing urinating up or placing of glasses on customers cars in the car park ,defecation in the urinals,breaking toilets and windows, punching in doors, throwing glasses out of cars into the Main Road when leaving late at night because no Taxi company will attend knowing the problems their drivers have encountered in the past shall I go on!)
This used to be a lovely old pub and it is a great shame that Grays and Sons the owners and the manager they appointed have let it slip so badly.
Posted by: Mrs C Y Nical, Crays Hill on 7:50pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Drive past the pub on a Friday lunch time and there are the 93 children from Crays Hill School having a quick pint and a pork scratching before being chased back to school by their teachers!!
Drive past the pub on a Friday lunch time and there are the 93 children from Crays Hill School having a quick pint and a pork scratching before being chased back to school by their teachers!!
Posted by: piano hinges on 9:21am Fri 28 Mar 08
[italic]But of course, the do gooders will be here in droves shortly to tell us how fights happen in the wider community.
However, before starting the usual anti racist bigot rant - go and speak to the people who live in the vicinity of the Duke of York.[/italic]
Kim.
Please.
Would you TRY to wait until people post before slagging them off? Just for once?
It just looks idiotic. And arrogant.
But of course, the do gooders will be here in droves shortly to tell us how fights happen in the wider community.
However, before starting the usual anti racist bigot rant - go and speak to the people who live in the vicinity of the Duke of York.
Kim.
Please.
Would you TRY to wait until people post before slagging them off? Just for once?
It just looks idiotic. And arrogant.
Posted by: Lisa Jensen, Southend on Sea on 9:53pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Kim, still havent mellowed in your old age then.
There is fighting in all walks of life, look at the Albanian culture and the polish, they fight between themselves all the time, the caste system in India, they slice each other to pieces. So go away and come back when you can stop the same old same old rubbish eh?
"[italic][bold]They[/bold][/italic] don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that [bold]bold[/bold] [italic]italic[/italic] they were not welcome.
Who the hell do you think you are woman? THEY dont go into the pub... How dare you refer to a certain section of the community as they? Travellers Kim, not subhuman lowers sections of our society, they, like us as white british or whatever rubbish the goverment has decided to label us with, travellers have us much right to be spoken about with dignity and manners as everyone else.
If you put they and was refering to the African community there would be uproar, dont you dare get on your high horse here and start being rude about other human beings.
Oh and like the other person said, for once in your life wait for a response, it does make you look stupidm, arrogant and also slightly manic!
Kim, still havent mellowed in your old age then.
There is fighting in all walks of life, look at the Albanian culture and the polish, they fight between themselves all the time, the caste system in India, they slice each other to pieces. So go away and come back when you can stop the same old same old rubbish eh?
"
They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome.
Who the hell do you think you are woman? THEY dont go into the pub... How dare you refer to a certain section of the community as they? Travellers Kim, not subhuman lowers sections of our society, they, like us as white british or whatever rubbish the goverment has decided to label us with, travellers have us much right to be spoken about with dignity and manners as everyone else.
If you put they and was refering to the African community there would be uproar, dont you dare get on your high horse here and start being rude about other human beings.
Oh and like the other person said, for once in your life wait for a response, it does make you look stupidm, arrogant and also slightly manic!
Posted by: Da Hood, In da house on 11:52pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote:
Oh come on, infighting and feuds are part of their "culture". Didn't you know that? I am sure if you think hard enough you can come up with a whole list of things that are part of their "culture". I've covered this before. Sure I haven't missed anything, or have I? As for the landlord and his licence. He has been happy to allow them to drink there for years. It is surely the landlord's prerogative as to who he allows in his pub. And you can't argue that perhaps he's scared. They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome. Now we can see why. But of course, the do gooders will be here in droves shortly to tell us how fights happen in the wider community. However, before starting the usual anti racist bigot rant - go and speak to the people who live in the vicinity of the Duke of York. They will certainly be able to enlighten you, if "enlighten" is the right word.[/quote] [quote]They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome.[/quote]
That reminded me of something the the Klu Klux Klan would say.
Kim Gandy wrote:
Oh come on, infighting and feuds are part of their "culture". Didn't you know that? I am sure if you think hard enough you can come up with a whole list of things that are part of their "culture". I've covered this before. Sure I haven't missed anything, or have I? As for the landlord and his licence. He has been happy to allow them to drink there for years. It is surely the landlord's prerogative as to who he allows in his pub. And you can't argue that perhaps he's scared. They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome. Now we can see why. But of course, the do gooders will be here in droves shortly to tell us how fights happen in the wider community. However, before starting the usual anti racist bigot rant - go and speak to the people who live in the vicinity of the Duke of York. They will certainly be able to enlighten you, if "enlighten" is the right word.
They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome.
That reminded me of something the the Klu Klux Klan would say.
Posted by: Peter on 6:47am Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Lisa Jensen[/bold] wrote:
Kim, still havent mellowed in your old age then.
There is fighting in all walks of life, look at the Albanian culture and the polish, they fight between themselves all the time, the caste system in India, they slice each other to pieces. So go away and come back when you can stop the same old same old rubbish eh?
"[italic][bold]They[/bold][/italic] don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that [bold]bold[/bold] [italic]italic[/italic] they were not welcome.
Who the hell do you think you are woman? THEY dont go into the pub... How dare you refer to a certain section of the community as they? Travellers Kim, not subhuman lowers sections of our society, they, like us as white british or whatever rubbish the goverment has decided to label us with, travellers have us much right to be spoken about with dignity and manners as everyone else.
If you put they and was refering to the African community there would be uproar, dont you dare get on your high horse here and start being rude about other human beings.
Oh and like the other person said, for once in your life wait for a response, it does make you look stupidm, arrogant and also slightly manic![/quote] Lisa I think this all about the travellers rude and abhorrent behavior,how do they expect to demand any esteem from the local indigenous population !!!
Lisa Jensen wrote:
Kim, still havent mellowed in your old age then.
There is fighting in all walks of life, look at the Albanian culture and the polish, they fight between themselves all the time, the caste system in India, they slice each other to pieces. So go away and come back when you can stop the same old same old rubbish eh?
"They don't go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome.
Who the hell do you think you are woman? THEY dont go into the pub... How dare you refer to a certain section of the community as they? Travellers Kim, not subhuman lowers sections of our society, they, like us as white british or whatever rubbish the goverment has decided to label us with, travellers have us much right to be spoken about with dignity and manners as everyone else.
If you put they and was refering to the African community there would be uproar, dont you dare get on your high horse here and start being rude about other human beings.
Oh and like the other person said, for once in your life wait for a response, it does make you look stupidm, arrogant and also slightly manic!
Lisa I think this all about the travellers rude and abhorrent behavior,how do they expect to demand any esteem from the local indigenous population !!!
Posted by: Lisa Jensen, Southend on 5:24pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Peter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Lisa Jensen[/bold] wrote: Kim, still havent mellowed in your old age then. There is fighting in all walks of life, look at the Albanian culture and the polish, they fight between themselves all the time, the caste system in India, they slice each other to pieces. So go away and come back when you can stop the same old same old rubbish eh? \"[italic][bold]They[/bold][/italic] don\'t go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that [bold]bold[/bold] [italic]italic[/italic] they were not welcome. Who the hell do you think you are woman? THEY dont go into the pub... How dare you refer to a certain section of the community as they? Travellers Kim, not subhuman lowers sections of our society, they, like us as white british or whatever rubbish the goverment has decided to label us with, travellers have us much right to be spoken about with dignity and manners as everyone else. If you put they and was refering to the African community there would be uproar, dont you dare get on your high horse here and start being rude about other human beings. Oh and like the other person said, for once in your life wait for a response, it does make you look stupidm, arrogant and also slightly manic![/quote] Lisa I think this all about the travellers rude and abhorrent behavior,how do they expect to demand any esteem from the local indigenous population !!![/quote] Peter,
I am not justifying the behaviour of these men, I am extremely cross and the way the article was written and at Ms Gandys response.
People fight every night in Southend and many other places, not all get the amount of write up's that this particular group of people do.
Peter wrote:
Lisa Jensen wrote: Kim, still havent mellowed in your old age then. There is fighting in all walks of life, look at the Albanian culture and the polish, they fight between themselves all the time, the caste system in India, they slice each other to pieces. So go away and come back when you can stop the same old same old rubbish eh? \"They don\'t go in the Shepherd and Dog in Crays Hill and that is because it was made clear that they were not welcome. Who the hell do you think you are woman? THEY dont go into the pub... How dare you refer to a certain section of the community as they? Travellers Kim, not subhuman lowers sections of our society, they, like us as white british or whatever rubbish the goverment has decided to label us with, travellers have us much right to be spoken about with dignity and manners as everyone else. If you put they and was refering to the African community there would be uproar, dont you dare get on your high horse here and start being rude about other human beings. Oh and like the other person said, for once in your life wait for a response, it does make you look stupidm, arrogant and also slightly manic!
Lisa I think this all about the travellers rude and abhorrent behavior,how do they expect to demand any esteem from the local indigenous population !!!
Peter,
I am not justifying the behaviour of these men, I am extremely cross and the way the article was written and at Ms Gandys response.
People fight every night in Southend and many other places, not all get the amount of write up's that this particular group of people do.
Posted by: Peter, Billericay on 9:17am Sun 30 Mar 08
Hello Lisa
You mention 'culture'
One definition is
Biology........ the cultivation of bacteria, in an artificial medium
Just thought I would mention it :-)
Hello Lisa
You mention 'culture'
One definition is
Biology........ the cultivation of bacteria, in an artificial medium
Just thought I would mention it :-)
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