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'Make County Hall give us third road'
CASTLE Point MP Bob Spink has urged the Prime Minister to press county councillors for urgent action on Canvey's third access road.
At Prime Minister's Questions in the Commons yesterday former Tory MP Dr Spink - now sitting as an independent - asked Gordon Brown to press County Hall to make the Canvey route its top priority.
He said a road from a different point on the island was needed for environmental, regeneration and safety reasons.
Dr Spink asked the PM: "Will he join me in pressing Essex County Council, which is Conservative-controlled, to make this its top priority? If it does, we will get the access road we need.
"If it doesn't, the people will know who to blame."
Mr Brown replied the Government had increased spending on roads nationwide.
He said: "It is the responsibility of Essex County Council to bring forward a scheme which provides value for money and meets environmental objectives.
"I know Essex County Council is neither of his party nor ours. I hope, however, it will listen to his representations."
Ray Howard, Tory county councillor for Canvey West, said a third road would cost about £100million and need Government funding. He urged Dr Spink to continue to lobby in Parliament for the money.
He promised: "I will fight any corner to get Canvey another access road, but in the meantime I'm working hard at County Hall to try and get improvements to Canvey Way.
"I do believe for the MP to state it's Essex County Council's responsibility to build an additional access road to Canvey is not the case. It would have to come through the local transport plan, which is the Government strategy.
"He should be making more noises to the Government, particularly the Department for Transport, because Essex County Council cannot afford to pay for the access road."
7:10am Thursday 27th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Happy®, A.B.C. on 10:30am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote]Ray Howard, Tory county councillor for Canvey West, said a third road would cost about £100million and need Government funding. He urged Dr Spink to continue to lobby in Parliament for the money.[/quote]
As if the Government are going to spend £100,000,000 so that a couple of thousand people can drive their cars off the island at rush hour.
Bog-dwellers really should get a sense of perspective.
Ray Howard, Tory county councillor for Canvey West, said a third road would cost about £100million and need Government funding. He urged Dr Spink to continue to lobby in Parliament for the money.
As if the Government are going to spend £100,000,000 so that a couple of thousand people can drive their cars off the island at rush hour.
Bog-dwellers really should get a sense of perspective.
Posted by: tommy, trees on 11:36am Thu 27 Mar 08
He's going for the Canvey vote then. It's finding issues off the Island that's the tough one. I know. Build around The Chase, Burches and The Common. That'll stop them having to build so many more new houses on Canvey. Stick that in your manifesto Bob.
He's going for the Canvey vote then. It's finding issues off the Island that's the tough one. I know. Build around The Chase, Burches and The Common. That'll stop them having to build so many more new houses on Canvey. Stick that in your manifesto Bob.
Posted by: John, My Desk on 12:04pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Dr Spink..why don't you start your political party 'third road for canvey'..Its the only way you will get elected at the next election
Dr Spink..why don't you start your political party 'third road for canvey'..Its the only way you will get elected at the next election
Posted by: bill sharp, london on 1:10pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Did Not take long for the independant member to start abusing the Tory County council. Just wish he would tell the truth. he is fully aware that the responsibility for building an alternative access for Canvey Island is a Government decision and not a local or County funding issue. use your position in parliament to attack the refusal of government to fund this much needed road and stop implying false information to the public so that you look as if you are the only one working for this road.
Ray Howard and I have been continually and publicly working for the road to the manorway since before you arrived here from Dorset.
Did Not take long for the independant member to start abusing the Tory County council. Just wish he would tell the truth. he is fully aware that the responsibility for building an alternative access for Canvey Island is a Government decision and not a local or County funding issue. use your position in parliament to attack the refusal of government to fund this much needed road and stop implying false information to the public so that you look as if you are the only one working for this road.
Ray Howard and I have been continually and publicly working for the road to the manorway since before you arrived here from Dorset.
Posted by: tommy, trees on 1:26pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote]the independant member to start abusing the Tory County council[/quote]
Makes a change from independents having their members interfered with by tory councillors.
the independant member to start abusing the Tory County council
Makes a change from independents having their members interfered with by tory councillors.
Posted by: Driver, castle point on 2:13pm Thu 27 Mar 08
It looks like "Bandwaggon Bob" is living up to his name. Perhaps if he did not pay £,000s to his ex wife, daughter and lovers daughter out of public funds, and stopped claiming £22,000 for a London house (just 30 miles from his main house), there would be more public money left for road schemes such as this.
It looks like "Bandwaggon Bob" is living up to his name. Perhaps if he did not pay £,000s to his ex wife, daughter and lovers daughter out of public funds, and stopped claiming £22,000 for a London house (just 30 miles from his main house), there would be more public money left for road schemes such as this.
Posted by: Dave, Southend on 4:28pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Happy - please, please let us know which member of the Conservative Party refers to Canvey Islanders as 'bog dwellers'.
It's entirely true that the council would need government cash to build a third road. However, as a first step to getting the cash, the council has to prioritize it and actually ASK the government for the money.
I would guess the reason Essex CC hasn't done so is because they want government money to be used in other directions.
Happy - please, please let us know which member of the Conservative Party refers to Canvey Islanders as 'bog dwellers'.
It's entirely true that the council would need government cash to build a third road. However, as a first step to getting the cash, the council has to prioritize it and actually ASK the government for the money.
I would guess the reason Essex CC hasn't done so is because they want government money to be used in other directions.
Posted by: Happy®, A.B.C. on 5:38pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote]Happy - please, please let us know which member of the Conservative Party refers to Canvey Islanders as 'bog dwellers'.
[/quote]
Dear Dave.
If I was a member of the Conservative party I would answer that for you. But I cannot.
What I can do, however, is refer you to the well known local author Bernard Cornwell and his books about the Danes and Uhtred in 890AD.
In one of the books he refers to the bogs and marshes of Canvey (he also mentions two tree island)and it's fractious uncouth, uncivilised, dwellers who live sad, pitiful, short and brutish lives.
Benfleet is regarded as an earthly paradise in comparison.
Southend, I'm afraid, doesn't get a mention but I'm sure that doesn't surprise you.
Happy - please, please let us know which member of the Conservative Party refers to Canvey Islanders as 'bog dwellers'.
Dear Dave.
If I was a member of the Conservative party I would answer that for you. But I cannot.
What I can do, however, is refer you to the well known local author Bernard Cornwell and his books about the Danes and Uhtred in 890AD.
In one of the books he refers to the bogs and marshes of Canvey (he also mentions two tree island)and it's fractious uncouth, uncivilised, dwellers who live sad, pitiful, short and brutish lives.
Benfleet is regarded as an earthly paradise in comparison.
Southend, I'm afraid, doesn't get a mention but I'm sure that doesn't surprise you.
Posted by: basher, Canvey of course on 5:47pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Nice one, Ray
90 million for me, 10 million for the scrotes on Canvey.
That should make a nice liitle garage for wifeys motor,eh
Nice one, Ray
90 million for me, 10 million for the scrotes on Canvey.
That should make a nice liitle garage for wifeys motor,eh
Posted by: AndyPandy, Work- Still !!! on 6:04pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Happy®[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Happy - please, please let us know which member of the Conservative Party refers to Canvey Islanders as 'bog dwellers'. [/quote] Dear Dave. If I was a member of the Conservative party I would answer that for you. But I cannot. What I can do, however, is refer you to the well known local author Bernard Cornwell and his books about the Danes and Uhtred in 890AD. In one of the books he refers to the bogs and marshes of Canvey (he also mentions two tree island)and it's fractious uncouth, uncivilised, dwellers who live sad, pitiful, short and brutish lives. Benfleet is regarded as an earthly paradise in comparison. Southend, I'm afraid, doesn't get a mention but I'm sure that doesn't surprise you. [/quote] Happy, a little gem in the same vein from www.canveyislandhist
ory.com : "There are many men today who might claim that one wife is certainly enough for any man in his right senses. But it was not so long ago that men on Canvey were reported to have many wives during their lifetime. Numbers ranging from 14 and 15 to as many as 35 have been mentiond as commonplace for the time. The answer to this remarkable fact appears to be found in the great sickness found in Canvey. A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population. It is not clear, however, why more women than men were struck down. Perhaps the menial tasks and long hours of the age helped the fever to overcome the victim, but it was not dwelt on by the spouse who might even have argued that variety be the spice of life, and readily set to the mainland to fetch another.
The author, Daniel Defoe, writing in the 18th century, made reference to Canvey (Candy Island) and its fever, saying that he frequently met with men who had taken repeatedly and in quick succession a huge number of brides.
The unhealthy atmosphere of the marshlands, with its dampness and fog, was blamed for the change in complexion of the womenfolk (those born on the island were thought to be immune), and seldom did they live for more than a year in the new surroundings.
Advice to stay away from stagnant water and marshland areas was given to sufferers but this was a little late in the day for those taken from their wholesome fresh air in the uplands and brought to a markedly different terrain." Looks like they've been campaigning for centuries to get off as fast as possible !
Happy® wrote:
Happy - please, please let us know which member of the Conservative Party refers to Canvey Islanders as 'bog dwellers'.
Dear Dave. If I was a member of the Conservative party I would answer that for you. But I cannot. What I can do, however, is refer you to the well known local author Bernard Cornwell and his books about the Danes and Uhtred in 890AD. In one of the books he refers to the bogs and marshes of Canvey (he also mentions two tree island)and it's fractious uncouth, uncivilised, dwellers who live sad, pitiful, short and brutish lives. Benfleet is regarded as an earthly paradise in comparison. Southend, I'm afraid, doesn't get a mention but I'm sure that doesn't surprise you.
Happy, a little gem in the same vein from www.canveyislandhist
ory.com : "There are many men today who might claim that one wife is certainly enough for any man in his right senses. But it was not so long ago that men on Canvey were reported to have many wives during their lifetime. Numbers ranging from 14 and 15 to as many as 35 have been mentiond as commonplace for the time. The answer to this remarkable fact appears to be found in the great sickness found in Canvey. A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population. It is not clear, however, why more women than men were struck down. Perhaps the menial tasks and long hours of the age helped the fever to overcome the victim, but it was not dwelt on by the spouse who might even have argued that variety be the spice of life, and readily set to the mainland to fetch another.
The author, Daniel Defoe, writing in the 18th century, made reference to Canvey (Candy Island) and its fever, saying that he frequently met with men who had taken repeatedly and in quick succession a huge number of brides.
The unhealthy atmosphere of the marshlands, with its dampness and fog, was blamed for the change in complexion of the womenfolk (those born on the island were thought to be immune), and seldom did they live for more than a year in the new surroundings.
Advice to stay away from stagnant water and marshland areas was given to sufferers but this was a little late in the day for those taken from their wholesome fresh air in the uplands and brought to a markedly different terrain." Looks like they've been campaigning for centuries to get off as fast as possible !
Posted by: Happy®, A.B.C. on 6:24pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote]A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population. [/quote]
It was also known as the Ague or the "Essex Disease".
I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey.
And not a moment too soon.
A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population.
It was also known as the Ague or the "Essex Disease".
I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey.
And not a moment too soon.
Posted by: steve on 8:19pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Happy®[/bold] wrote:
[quote]A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population. [/quote] It was also known as the Ague or the "Essex Disease". I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey. And not a moment too soon. [/quote] What is it with you and Canvey?
You don't live there so what's the problem?
Happy® wrote:
A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population.
It was also known as the Ague or the "Essex Disease". I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey. And not a moment too soon.
What is it with you and Canvey?
You don't live there so what's the problem?
Posted by: Grillo The Clown, Essex on 8:46pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bill sharp[/bold] wrote:
Did Not take long for the independant member to start abusing the Tory County council. Just wish he would tell the truth. he is fully aware that the responsibility for building an alternative access for Canvey Island is a Government decision and not a local or County funding issue. use your position in parliament to attack the refusal of government to fund this much needed road and stop implying false information to the public so that you look as if you are the only one working for this road.
Ray Howard and I have been continually and publicly working for the road to the manorway since before you arrived here from Dorset. [/quote] No sour eggs their then Billy boy? How is Gayle these days?
Bob Spink is 10000 tmes the man you are and deep down you know it.
Follow his Ex and select a REAL MAN!
bill sharp wrote:
Did Not take long for the independant member to start abusing the Tory County council. Just wish he would tell the truth. he is fully aware that the responsibility for building an alternative access for Canvey Island is a Government decision and not a local or County funding issue. use your position in parliament to attack the refusal of government to fund this much needed road and stop implying false information to the public so that you look as if you are the only one working for this road.
Ray Howard and I have been continually and publicly working for the road to the manorway since before you arrived here from Dorset.
No sour eggs their then Billy boy? How is Gayle these days?
Bob Spink is 10000 tmes the man you are and deep down you know it.
Follow his Ex and select a REAL MAN!
Posted by: Grillo The Clown, Essex on 8:49pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]steve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Happy®[/bold] wrote:
[quote]A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population. [/quote] It was also known as the Ague or the "Essex Disease". I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey. And not a moment too soon. [/quote] What is it with you and Canvey?
You don't live there so what's the problem?[/quote] Steve,
Poor old Happy was bullied at school so he posts his drivel on here all the time. Just count yourself lucky you don't actually have to spend any time with him, he must be the MOST BORING MAN in ESSEX!!!!
He has posted before mentioning "I have a big house in Benfleet"..... Of course you do Happy, of course you do. Over by the Manor Trading Estate you clown!!!
steve wrote:
Happy® wrote:
A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population.
It was also known as the Ague or the "Essex Disease". I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey. And not a moment too soon.
What is it with you and Canvey?
You don't live there so what's the problem?
Steve,
Poor old Happy was bullied at school so he posts his drivel on here all the time. Just count yourself lucky you don't actually have to spend any time with him, he must be the MOST BORING MAN in ESSEX!!!!
He has posted before mentioning "I have a big house in Benfleet"..... Of course you do Happy, of course you do. Over by the Manor Trading Estate you clown!!!
Posted by: Devil's advocate, Boozledon on 10:17pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Grillo The Clown[/bold] wrote:
<b>[quote][bold]steve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Happy®[/bold] wrote:
[quote]A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population. [/quote] It was also known as the Ague or the \\\"Essex Disease\\\". I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the \\\"stagnant\\\" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey. And not a moment too soon. [/quote] What is it with you and Canvey?
You don\\\'t live there so what\\\'s the problem?[/quote] Steve,
Poor old Happy was bullied at school so he posts his drivel on here all the time. Just count yourself lucky you don\\\'t actually have to spend any time with him, he must be the MOST BORING MAN in ESSEX!!!!
He has posted before mentioning \\\"I have a big house in Benfleet\\\"..... Of course you do Happy, of course you do. Over by the Manor Trading Estate you clown!!! </b>[/quote] Yeah but if you really are Grillo, then you live in Italy! Anyway, I have just finished the Bernard Cornwell book Happy referred to and it is a good read and it does describe Canvey as it is. Do you know they used to cool the backwater Hadleigh river?
Grillo The Clown wrote:
<b>steve wrote:
Happy® wrote:
A form of malaria, the intermittent fever appeared to be the cause of early death among the female population.
It was also known as the Ague or the \\\"Essex Disease\\\". I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the \\\"stagnant\\\" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey. And not a moment too soon.
What is it with you and Canvey?
You don't live there so what's the problem?
Steve,
Poor old Happy was bullied at school so he posts his drivel on here all the time. Just count yourself lucky you don't actually have to spend any time with him, he must be the MOST BORING MAN in ESSEX!!!!
He has posted before mentioning \\\"I have a big house in Benfleet\\\"..... Of course you do Happy, of course you do. Over by the Manor Trading Estate you clown!!! </b>
Yeah but if you really are Grillo, then you live in Italy! Anyway, I have just finished the Bernard Cornwell book Happy referred to and it is a good read and it does describe Canvey as it is. Do you know they used to cool the backwater Hadleigh river?
Posted by: Grillo The Clown, South Benfleet on 10:50pm Thu 27 Mar 08
"Do you know they used to cool the backwater Hadleigh river?"
In English please.........Do you mean "They used to call the backwater Hadleigh river"?
"Do you know they used to cool the backwater Hadleigh river?"
In English please.........Do you mean "They used to call the backwater Hadleigh river"?
Posted by: tina, basildon on 7:20am Fri 28 Mar 08
just cant help yourself can you GRILLO. why do you have to be so nasty all the time?
just cant help yourself can you GRILLO. why do you have to be so nasty all the time?
Posted by: Grillo The Clown, South Benfleet on 7:29am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]tina[/bold] wrote:
just cant help yourself can you GRILLO. why do you have to be so nasty all the time? [/quote] I would draw your attention to the quotes taken from posts above, perhaps you can explain how exactly I am being "Nasty"?
"Bog-dwellers really should get a sense of perspective."
"I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey.
And not a moment too soon."
tina wrote:
just cant help yourself can you GRILLO. why do you have to be so nasty all the time?
I would draw your attention to the quotes taken from posts above, perhaps you can explain how exactly I am being "Nasty"?
"Bog-dwellers really should get a sense of perspective."
"I know of one councillor (who is a Tory) suggesting that if the RSPB do flood part of its 800 acres in western Canvey then this may create the "stagnant" water that is necessary for the anopheles mosquito to breed, and with global warming plus the spread of warm climate insects, we could see the re-introduction of malaria in Canvey.
And not a moment too soon."
Posted by: tina, basildon on 11:04am Fri 28 Mar 08
your being nasty because you are always picking on people and its mostly me and a couple of others, that is why i dont like coming on here when you are about
your being nasty because you are always picking on people and its mostly me and a couple of others, that is why i dont like coming on here when you are about
Posted by: cyril, abh on 11:34am Fri 28 Mar 08
When I was growing up on Canvey a bull-dozer came through our field one day. Next day some bloke from the council came along and put a street sign up. Me and me brothers didn't know what it was. But we took it round the scrap mans anyway and he gave us a tanner for it. Next day it was back up and we was told not to touch it again. It made a good goalpost anyway.
When I was growing up on Canvey a bull-dozer came through our field one day. Next day some bloke from the council came along and put a street sign up. Me and me brothers didn't know what it was. But we took it round the scrap mans anyway and he gave us a tanner for it. Next day it was back up and we was told not to touch it again. It made a good goalpost anyway.
Posted by: chill out, Benfleet on 4:07pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Another acess road. You must be joking! There are already 2 too many! If people choose to live on Canvey they should stay there, but instead they all want to leave the Island every day causing traffic chaos in the neighbouring towns, then have the audacity to demand better and faster ways to accomplish this. Any new road should be a private funded toll road. Let the Canvey residents pay for it if they want it.
Another acess road. You must be joking! There are already 2 too many! If people choose to live on Canvey they should stay there, but instead they all want to leave the Island every day causing traffic chaos in the neighbouring towns, then have the audacity to demand better and faster ways to accomplish this. Any new road should be a private funded toll road. Let the Canvey residents pay for it if they want it.
Posted by: evilc, essex on 8:16am Sat 29 Mar 08
And when that road is built AND people still get killed as a result of bad driving will there then be shouts for a 4th road off the Island?
And when that road is built AND people still get killed as a result of bad driving will there then be shouts for a 4th road off the Island?
Posted by: BILL SHARP, london on 10:26am Mon 31 Mar 08
I always put my name to a comment as I believe it is correct to do so . unfortunately unless he has a most unusual name GRILLO does not
Perhaps he would be most kind and give his real name ? Oh no that would mean he could not be so rude in future. oh and Gail is the spelling.
I always put my name to a comment as I believe it is correct to do so . unfortunately unless he has a most unusual name GRILLO does not
Perhaps he would be most kind and give his real name ? Oh no that would mean he could not be so rude in future. oh and Gail is the spelling.
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