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I'm not a prostitute, I'm a sex counsellor
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| Looking for business a prostitute plying her trade with a passing motorist |
FAR from dirty, drug-addicted and self-loathing, prostitute Sally sees herself as a "marriage saviour".
Dressed in jogging bottoms, trainers and a fleece top, she looks like a run-of-the-mill mum, in her forties doing her shopping.
Following on from last week's Echo story about the reality of life on the streets for prostitutes, Sally - not her real name - called in to say she wanted to lift the lid on life as a working girl who sells sex from a Southend flat.
Sally has spent the past six years turning tricks to pay the bills. But she doesn't seem to fit the image.
A mum to three adult children, she has regular health checks, keeps an eye out for the safety of the other girls and genuinely cares about her regulars.
She describes herself as a relationship counsellor and a sex therapist rolled into one.
She said: "I love my job because I help people. I save marriages because I help men solve their relationship or sexual problems.
"I'm like the salt and pepper to a marriage - the marriage is the meal and I complete that meal.
"I've told blokes how to go about putting their marriage right and done myself out of business because I never see them again."
Sally's clients are aged 20 to 80 and all have reasons to visit her.
Mostly, she says the 20-year-olds want a sex education and the 30-year-olds want younger girls.
The 40 to 60-year-olds, love their wives, but want a fantasy fulfilled or something extra added to their sex lives, without the hassle of an affair.
The 60-pluses want to reignite their sex life, often because their wife has lost interest or passed away.
Sometimes, her clients have returned from war-zones, have life-threatening illnesses or have even lost limbs.
Sally said: "A wife called me once because her husband had a colostomy bag fitted and while she couldn't have sex with him, she still wanted him to have a sex life.
"It's not always about sex, I might only have sex with four out of ten clients.
"Mostly it is about companionship or building up their confidence.
"I've had grown men cry on my bed before because I have given them back their manhood."
But there are strange requests and the only way Sally says she has coped with the job, is to treat everyone as if their fantasies and fetishes are normal.
Despite being a qualified college lecturer and retail manager, Sally went on the game, when her daughter left for university.
Having escaped from a disastrous marriage and as a single parent, she saw her benefits plummet by £162 per week and turned to escorting out of desperation.
She said: "I didn't know where my next penny was coming from.
"I could only get part-time work, so I rang an advert and had an interview."
Sally's first time was nerve-racking, but the other girls were on hand for her return, making her a cup of coffee and asking her how it was.
She said: "We are like a big family, the working girls, the street girls and the escorts - we all look out for each other.
"There are tricks of the trade and you learn to do a job without it intruding on your personal life.You become two different people."
She quit escorting after a year, describing it as "pimping" as the girls have to carry out every service offered by the agency, despite personal preferences.
She said: "You don't want to lose your job, so you go along with it. "Sometimes there would be up to ten customers in an evening, and you would go from one to the next, without even having time in-between for a wash."
Sally began calling around flats in London and Southend, looking for work.
"There's a trust between the girls who work in the flats", she said.
"If we get a dodgy customer, we call other flats to let them know what's happened.
"Even though we're independent, we're looking out for each other."
Sally says the motivation behind all of the girls in the flats, is to support their family, elderly parents or university-bound children.
She said: "Unlike the girls on the streets, the girls working in the flats don't have drugs problems.
"For girls in the flats it's about more than just the money, it's like a relationship service.
"People think what we do is seedy, but it's not.
"We are saving marriages because we are stopping men from going out and having affairs."
12:01am Tuesday 25th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Jayne, Benfleet on 12:07am Tue 25 Mar 08
Delude yourself as much as you want but a prostitute is a prostitute.
Delude yourself as much as you want but a prostitute is a prostitute.
Posted by: JJ on 7:36am Tue 25 Mar 08
Does that mean Drug Dealers are really Pharmacists and Shop Lifters are Retail Outlet Collection Agents. Bank Robbers maybe are Financial Re-distribution Consultants, whilst Burglars are Security Advisory Contractors.
Call a spade a spade please.
Does that mean Drug Dealers are really Pharmacists and Shop Lifters are Retail Outlet Collection Agents. Bank Robbers maybe are Financial Re-distribution Consultants, whilst Burglars are Security Advisory Contractors.
Call a spade a spade please.
Posted by: ian, colchester on 7:55am Tue 25 Mar 08
Your are nothing but a wh**e.
Your are nothing but a wh**e.
Posted by: Kat, Grays on 8:12am Tue 25 Mar 08
Just for the record do your "Adult" children agree with what you do ?? Sorry I would hang my head in shame ... Seedy? yes!! Marriage councellor ?? Oh no ...God **** it woman you sell your body for sex...There is no other way to describe it .... Who benefits ?? You off course..You take their money don't you ? Do you declare your earnings ?? mmmm...
Just for the record do your "Adult" children agree with what you do ?? Sorry I would hang my head in shame ... Seedy? yes!! Marriage councellor ?? Oh no ...God **** it woman you sell your body for sex...There is no other way to describe it .... Who benefits ?? You off course..You take their money don't you ? Do you declare your earnings ?? mmmm...
Posted by: Nick BURTON, Southend on 8:35am Tue 25 Mar 08
[bold]I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role.[/bold]
I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role. Posted by: Nicola Carletti, South Africa on 8:37am Tue 25 Mar 08
Nick, is that because you are a CLIENT of hers...LMAO.. all she is, is a HOE..![bold]bold[/bold]
Nick, is that because you are a CLIENT of hers...LMAO.. all she is, is a HOE..!
Posted by: Biffo123, Wickford on 8:54am Tue 25 Mar 08
Whore maybe, human being, definitely.
Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest.
Give the lass a break.
Whore maybe, human being, definitely.
Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest.
Give the lass a break.
Posted by: kat, Grays on 9:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
Oh please Biffo...to degrade yourself and sell your body for sex is the lowest a woman can get...There is no such thing as depseration in this country...All i read is about how depsperate so called people are here in Britain that they have to resort to this...we have all had to get off our backsides and earn a living and pay TAX...I would like to know if she pays tax and declares this or do these woman earn this money on top of Social Security Benefits ??? And no, most woman dont sell themselves in one way or another for sex you have a somewhat low opinion of woman there Biffo...Get a grip !!!
Oh please Biffo...to degrade yourself and sell your body for sex is the lowest a woman can get...There is no such thing as depseration in this country...All i read is about how depsperate so called people are here in Britain that they have to resort to this...we have all had to get off our backsides and earn a living and pay TAX...I would like to know if she pays tax and declares this or do these woman earn this money on top of Social Security Benefits ??? And no, most woman dont sell themselves in one way or another for sex you have a somewhat low opinion of woman there Biffo...Get a grip !!!
Posted by: Nicola Carletti, South Africa on 9:18am Tue 25 Mar 08
Well well well... funny how only blokes are commenting that its 'OK' - wot a joke - she and others must have a good client base with you scum-bags who actually PAY for sex behind your wives backs - makes me ill thinking of it.. Biffo my dear, she aint no LASS - she is a down-right Wh@re trying to 'pretty up' her so-called Tax Free 'occupation' - I'd like to know of one woman who would stay with their husband after knowing he had been with a wh@re...
Well well well... funny how only blokes are commenting that its 'OK' - wot a joke - she and others must have a good client base with you scum-bags who actually PAY for sex behind your wives backs - makes me ill thinking of it.. Biffo my dear, she aint no LASS - she is a down-right Wh@re trying to 'pretty up' her so-called Tax Free 'occupation' - I'd like to know of one woman who would stay with their husband after knowing he had been with a wh@re...
Posted by: ian, colchester on 9:25am Tue 25 Mar 08
Maybe you did'nt read my comment above Nicola, and as for saying men pay for it one way or another Biffo that is complete cr@p.
Maybe you did'nt read my comment above Nicola, and as for saying men pay for it one way or another Biffo that is complete cr@p.
Posted by: Sherry, At work :( on 10:35am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Biffo123[/bold] wrote:
Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.[/quote] "All women demand some kind of payment for sex"
OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me.
EEW, I'd rather be naked!
Biffo123 wrote:
Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.
"All women demand some kind of payment for sex"
OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me.
EEW, I'd rather be naked!
Posted by: Mark Crosby, Pitsea, Basildon on 11:02am Tue 25 Mar 08
How is she degrading herself if its her choice to be a prostitute?
I really don't understand this British stiff upper lip towards prostitutes.
When the Netherlands introduced legal prostitution, the number of sexual attacks plummeted.
Over there, workers are tested regularly for STI/STDs, given free contraception, etc. They are even taxed by the government.
Is it not time to reconsider this anti-sex attitude we have over here and consider prostitution to be the lesser evil?
How is she degrading herself if its her choice to be a prostitute?
I really don't understand this British stiff upper lip towards prostitutes.
When the Netherlands introduced legal prostitution, the number of sexual attacks plummeted.
Over there, workers are tested regularly for STI/STDs, given free contraception, etc. They are even taxed by the government.
Is it not time to reconsider this anti-sex attitude we have over here and consider prostitution to be the lesser evil?
Posted by: Mark Crosby, Pitsea, Basildon on 11:08am Tue 25 Mar 08
Correction: Workers in the Netherlands are not required to register or undergo regular health checks, although they are given free health care.
Correction: Workers in the Netherlands are not required to register or undergo regular health checks, although they are given free health care.
Posted by: Emma, 266-263 on 11:35am Tue 25 Mar 08
[bold]bold[/bold] Firstly it is a woman's choice to earn her living any which way she chooses. She has no control or prior knowledge if her clients are single, or married..ladies your anger should be directed at the men on this one. Also this kind of work is being vetted very heavily by the inland revenue and escorts all pay tax and national insurance on the work that they do. If a woman chooses to offer a service, and is happy to do so, it is not degrading. It is simply that - a service between two mutally consenting adults. Calling the girls nasty names will never change the fact that much of what that lady said is very true! And Biffo is right...all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way. If a man is single and wants a safe, clean stress free encounter what better way than to see and escourt rather than pick up one of you single loose women who sleep with anyone who pays you attention or buys your a drink at talk on a saturday night!
Firstly it is a woman's choice to earn her living any which way she chooses. She has no control or prior knowledge if her clients are single, or married..ladies your anger should be directed at the men on this one. Also this kind of work is being vetted very heavily by the inland revenue and escorts all pay tax and national insurance on the work that they do. If a woman chooses to offer a service, and is happy to do so, it is not degrading. It is simply that - a service between two mutally consenting adults. Calling the girls nasty names will never change the fact that much of what that lady said is very true! And Biffo is right...all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way. If a man is single and wants a safe, clean stress free encounter what better way than to see and escourt rather than pick up one of you single loose women who sleep with anyone who pays you attention or buys your a drink at talk on a saturday night!
Posted by: ian, colchester on 11:54am Tue 25 Mar 08
If women go around choosing to be prostitutes all very well and if it becomes a recognized job by the inland revenue it should be also recognized by the benefits agency and if a pimp advertisers in the local job centre women on benefits could be pressurized into taking these so called jobs.Far fetched I hear you say.
If women go around choosing to be prostitutes all very well and if it becomes a recognized job by the inland revenue it should be also recognized by the benefits agency and if a pimp advertisers in the local job centre women on benefits could be pressurized into taking these so called jobs.Far fetched I hear you say.
Posted by: Emma on 12:14pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[bold]bold[/bold] Ian the benefits agency do recognise this as a proffesion and stop girls' benefits if they are working. Perhaps you should check your facts before ridiculing the factual information i have given. Nicola..you seem to be a very bitter twisted woman i can only assume you weren't able to satisfy your man so he went to visiti and escort. Just because I am female and have no problem with escorts doesn't mean i work as one. As it happens I work in a very big industry and I have no need to be a potential anything. but your comments offered much amusement to my colleagues and I.
Ian the benefits agency do recognise this as a proffesion and stop girls' benefits if they are working. Perhaps you should check your facts before ridiculing the factual information i have given. Nicola..you seem to be a very bitter twisted woman i can only assume you weren't able to satisfy your man so he went to visiti and escort. Just because I am female and have no problem with escorts doesn't mean i work as one. As it happens I work in a very big industry and I have no need to be a potential anything. but your comments offered much amusement to my colleagues and I.
Posted by: Dave, Canvey on 12:18pm Tue 25 Mar 08
I am experienced in life and have been around the block. I have known of many women seek out men that have money and material possesions.
It has been said that this is a form of prostitution.
[bold]How many women do you know that are with their "partner" bacause of his fat wallet ?[/bold]
I am experienced in life and have been around the block. I have known of many women seek out men that have money and material possesions.
It has been said that this is a form of prostitution.
How many women do you know that are with their "partner" bacause of his fat wallet ? Posted by: Emma on 12:23pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Dave is very right. I despise those types of women, not the women who earn a living by being an escort. It's the cheap money grabbing, shallow, protentious women who we have to suffer in our world who are societies problem! [bold]bold[/bold]
Dave is very right. I despise those types of women, not the women who earn a living by being an escort. It's the cheap money grabbing, shallow, protentious women who we have to suffer in our world who are societies problem!
Posted by: Kat, Grays on 12:40pm Tue 25 Mar 08
So how do the benefit agency prove this Emma???? Do the ladies give out receipts ?....and what would it say then ? Receipt for services rendered ?... Ok they provide a service so they are classed as self employed are they registered with the REVENUE then are they ? I have dealings with the Social Security and the inland revenue and no its not monitored.. Sorry you lot have no morals...
As for bitter and twisted ? No its about being brought up in society to have respect not dragged up..... Do you have respect or morals Emma ?? mmmm...Yes its her choice but surely we do not have to be exposed to it in a local newspaper as a NEWS STORY ... Any woman that agrees with this must surely have issues with their self esteem....I rest my case.....
So how do the benefit agency prove this Emma???? Do the ladies give out receipts ?....and what would it say then ? Receipt for services rendered ?... Ok they provide a service so they are classed as self employed are they registered with the REVENUE then are they ? I have dealings with the Social Security and the inland revenue and no its not monitored.. Sorry you lot have no morals...
As for bitter and twisted ? No its about being brought up in society to have respect not dragged up..... Do you have respect or morals Emma ?? mmmm...Yes its her choice but surely we do not have to be exposed to it in a local newspaper as a NEWS STORY ... Any woman that agrees with this must surely have issues with their self esteem....I rest my case.....
Posted by: Nicola Carletti, South Africa on 12:41pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Dearest Emma, so glad to have put a smile on your collegues faces.. me.. bitter and twisted, NOT.. not able to satisfy my man, that may be a problem u have or have had, I certainly not ... just a normal MORAL person thats all, this 'Sally' has made out that she is saving marriages - HOW on earth is that possible... adultry is adultry, be it with a wh@ore or a not.. If the people of Britain think that scr@wing a wh@re is not an affair - then i tell ya, in SA terms, some brits can only be DOFF hey!! - Nics, over and out!
Dearest Emma, so glad to have put a smile on your collegues faces.. me.. bitter and twisted, NOT.. not able to satisfy my man, that may be a problem u have or have had, I certainly not ... just a normal MORAL person thats all, this 'Sally' has made out that she is saving marriages - HOW on earth is that possible... adultry is adultry, be it with a wh@ore or a not.. If the people of Britain think that scr@wing a wh@re is not an affair - then i tell ya, in SA terms, some brits can only be DOFF hey!! - Nics, over and out!
Posted by: Sherry, At work :( on 12:57pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nicola Carletti[/bold] wrote:
Sorry Ian, you must be one of the FEW men who disagree with this 'job' - and as for you Emma, i take you a wh@re too - and if not, then a POTENTIAL one.. ciao[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] I think Emma is a man, no woman would write this, "all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way"
That's terrible :(
Nicola Carletti wrote:
Sorry Ian, you must be one of the FEW men who disagree with this 'job' - and as for you Emma, i take you a wh@re too - and if not, then a POTENTIAL one.. ciao
I think Emma is a man, no woman would write this, "all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way"
That's terrible :(
Posted by: Emma on 1:00pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Kat, I work in the public sector so I too have dealings with the revenue. The benefits agency monitors fraud the same way in all cases, irrelevent of what work is being done. It doesn't take a genious to figure out how the benefits agency finds out with claimees are commiting fraud. To answer your question, yes escorts are actually logged as self employeed, the inland revenue do not require them to put escort down...normally beautician or entertainment industry is suffice. You will find that each working flat has been assigned a VAT man or woman. I'm afraid i have dealing with the revenue and i also know women who work in this industry, so i am well aware of how this works. YOu my dear are the one who is wrong, as this kind of work is very closely monitored and has been for the last 3 years in the Southend area. Providing a service, albeit a physical one does not mean someone has no morals. a woman who will only go looking for partners who have money, or drive a certain car, or wear a certain brand of clothing, they would be shallow and have no morals. It's all down to personal perception at the end of the day. I have no self esteem issues, i assure you of that, I am blessed with a great physique, natural attributes, intelligence and a fantastic career and loving husband with all the trimmings. I am merely pointing out that a mutual agreement between to people cannot be degrading if done in the appropriate manner. If you have taken offencse to reading the article, perhaps you best contact the journalist who wrote it. Emma please do us a favour and take your narrow minded, opinionated, bitter twisted foul mouth back to South Africa. YOu have no place in a modern society. certainly not our one. Good riddence i say.
Kat, I work in the public sector so I too have dealings with the revenue. The benefits agency monitors fraud the same way in all cases, irrelevent of what work is being done. It doesn't take a genious to figure out how the benefits agency finds out with claimees are commiting fraud. To answer your question, yes escorts are actually logged as self employeed, the inland revenue do not require them to put escort down...normally beautician or entertainment industry is suffice. You will find that each working flat has been assigned a VAT man or woman. I'm afraid i have dealing with the revenue and i also know women who work in this industry, so i am well aware of how this works. YOu my dear are the one who is wrong, as this kind of work is very closely monitored and has been for the last 3 years in the Southend area. Providing a service, albeit a physical one does not mean someone has no morals. a woman who will only go looking for partners who have money, or drive a certain car, or wear a certain brand of clothing, they would be shallow and have no morals. It's all down to personal perception at the end of the day. I have no self esteem issues, i assure you of that, I am blessed with a great physique, natural attributes, intelligence and a fantastic career and loving husband with all the trimmings. I am merely pointing out that a mutual agreement between to people cannot be degrading if done in the appropriate manner. If you have taken offencse to reading the article, perhaps you best contact the journalist who wrote it. Emma please do us a favour and take your narrow minded, opinionated, bitter twisted foul mouth back to South Africa. YOu have no place in a modern society. certainly not our one. Good riddence i say.
Posted by: Nicola Carletti, South Africa on 1:06pm Tue 25 Mar 08
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Posted by: kat, grays on 1:18pm Tue 25 Mar 08
No Emma that is not necessary the case. Do you work for the Revenue or Social Security??? I don't presume you do...If you know so much about these woman...and how this operates you must somehow be involved yourself....I know of someone that recently was told by the Social Security that they do not have the resources to monitor this or benefit fraud for that matter...which a lot of people are inclined to believe...I dont know where you get your source of information from but if that's the case in Southend then I'm not aware of it...So how many vat men do they provide services to as well ??? Do you know ?
[bold]And yes dearest Emma (as you quoted) please do us a favour and take your narrow minded, opinionated, bitter twisted foul mouth back to Southend. You have no place in a modern society. certainly not our one. Good riddence i say.[/bold]
No Emma that is not necessary the case. Do you work for the Revenue or Social Security??? I don't presume you do...If you know so much about these woman...and how this operates you must somehow be involved yourself....I know of someone that recently was told by the Social Security that they do not have the resources to monitor this or benefit fraud for that matter...which a lot of people are inclined to believe...I dont know where you get your source of information from but if that's the case in Southend then I'm not aware of it...So how many vat men do they provide services to as well ??? Do you know ?
And yes dearest Emma (as you quoted) please do us a favour and take your narrow minded, opinionated, bitter twisted foul mouth back to Southend. You have no place in a modern society. certainly not our one. Good riddence i say. Posted by: Citizen 139 on 1:22pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Nicola, it's the attitude of people like you that drive this profession underground. Open your eyes dear, this isn't the victorian era any longer.
Nicola, it's the attitude of people like you that drive this profession underground. Open your eyes dear, this isn't the victorian era any longer.
Posted by: Nicola Carletti, Sunny South Africa on 1:26pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[bold]Emma... was jus wonderin... since you're SOOOOOOOOOOOOO defensive towards everything negative surrounding this article and people's opinions.. IS YOUR ALIAS S-A-L-L-Y ???[/bold]
Emma... was jus wonderin... since you're SOOOOOOOOOOOOO defensive towards everything negative surrounding this article and people's opinions.. IS YOUR ALIAS S-A-L-L-Y ??? Posted by: Emma on 1:27pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Kat, yes if you read my ealier posts you would of realised that I work in the public sector and have close dealings with the Revenue. Hence I know this information, in addition to the lady I know who works as an escort. Unless you work in that specific industry or have dealings with the revenue regarding this issue, how would you know Kat? And in regards to using my quote back at me, you may find that my posts were neither bitter, not twisted, but factual and informative. So I am led to believe that your grasp on the English language is either not very good or you are clutching at straws in order to issue some sort of insult to me. YOu failed miserably, and I am only led to wonder why you are so appear to have taking this disccssion so seriously and quite frankly reacted rather in a way which indicates it has struck a nerve within you. Your personal issues with working ladies are not at question here. We were discussing whethere it is appropriate or not, and dispelling some of the ill founded myths and ideas ignorant people seem to cling onto.
Kat, yes if you read my ealier posts you would of realised that I work in the public sector and have close dealings with the Revenue. Hence I know this information, in addition to the lady I know who works as an escort. Unless you work in that specific industry or have dealings with the revenue regarding this issue, how would you know Kat? And in regards to using my quote back at me, you may find that my posts were neither bitter, not twisted, but factual and informative. So I am led to believe that your grasp on the English language is either not very good or you are clutching at straws in order to issue some sort of insult to me. YOu failed miserably, and I am only led to wonder why you are so appear to have taking this disccssion so seriously and quite frankly reacted rather in a way which indicates it has struck a nerve within you. Your personal issues with working ladies are not at question here. We were discussing whethere it is appropriate or not, and dispelling some of the ill founded myths and ideas ignorant people seem to cling onto.
Posted by: kat, grays on 1:31pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sherry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nicola Carletti[/bold] wrote: Sorry Ian, you must be one of the FEW men who disagree with this \'job\' - and as for you Emma, i take you a wh@re too - and if not, then a POTENTIAL one.. ciao[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] I think Emma is a man, no woman would write this, \"all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way\" That\'s terrible :( [/quote] Mmmm Sherry...yes maybe the VAT man !!!
Sherry wrote:
Nicola Carletti wrote: Sorry Ian, you must be one of the FEW men who disagree with this \'job\' - and as for you Emma, i take you a wh@re too - and if not, then a POTENTIAL one.. ciao
I think Emma is a man, no woman would write this, \"all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way\" That\'s terrible :(
Mmmm Sherry...yes maybe the VAT man !!!
Posted by: Nicola Carletti, Sunny South Africa on 1:41pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Thanks for your comment 'citizen' - but if being MORAL means the likes of you believe i think its still the vintage era, then so be it.. I choose to be moral and i choose to not expose my children to the likes of people that you and Emma quite obviously do.. which, in turn, is your choice, yes... a choice you will need to answer to one day.. im outta here, i am 2 hours behind you... bye bye now..
Thanks for your comment 'citizen' - but if being MORAL means the likes of you believe i think its still the vintage era, then so be it.. I choose to be moral and i choose to not expose my children to the likes of people that you and Emma quite obviously do.. which, in turn, is your choice, yes... a choice you will need to answer to one day.. im outta here, i am 2 hours behind you... bye bye now..
Posted by: Nicola Carletti, South Africa on 1:46pm Tue 25 Mar 08
hahahaha - im 2 hours AHEAD of y'all... gosh..
hahahaha - im 2 hours AHEAD of y'all... gosh..
Posted by: Kat, Grays on 2:13pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Emma[/bold] wrote:
Kat, yes if you read my ealier posts you would of realised that I work in the public sector and have close dealings with the Revenue. Hence I know this information, in addition to the lady I know who works as an escort. Unless you work in that specific industry or have dealings with the revenue regarding this issue, how would you know Kat? And in regards to using my quote back at me, you may find that my posts were neither bitter, not twisted, but factual and informative. So I am led to believe that your grasp on the English language is either not very good or you are clutching at straws in order to issue some sort of insult to me. YOu failed miserably, and I am only led to wonder why you are so appear to have taking this disccssion so seriously and quite frankly reacted rather in a way which indicates it has struck a nerve within you. Your personal issues with working ladies are not at question here. We were discussing whethere it is appropriate or not, and dispelling some of the ill founded myths and ideas ignorant people seem to cling onto.[/quote] As said previously Emma I myself have dealings with the Social Security and the Inland Revenue regarding tax, self employed status, and vat issues etc.. No I don't and neither would wish to have dealings with regard to prostitutes or should i say sex therapists.......You amaze me as a woman that actually works and pays tax. Or don't you pay tax...Why do you have the need to advertise the fact that your life is so called perfect that was never the issue...I could say the same but I don't need to advertise the fact...
So if you lost your job that's probably what you would do then is it seeing that you agree with it...Would you recommend it to your children as an occupation then?? I have no intention of insulting yourself but you must understand Emma that it is still frowned upon in general...You work within this sector. We don't and I'm sorry why should a woman think its right to open her legs or whatever and sell herself for money....My grasp on the English Language is enough to get me by I have no need to clutch at straws...You seem to be defending yourself immensly...I personally think that it's you that has the problem as we are merely voicing our opinion...
With regard to your answers regarding the comments makes me come to the question...
Are you perhaps related to "Sally" ....
Why the need to try and defend this so called "occupation"..
The way you have portrayed yourself is that you might have more to do with the whole issue of exchanging mutual services between consenting adults as you are making out...
Come on Emma then discuss the "issue" here make us believe that it could be the new generation profession ...not a load of long winded bull.... !!
Emma wrote:
Kat, yes if you read my ealier posts you would of realised that I work in the public sector and have close dealings with the Revenue. Hence I know this information, in addition to the lady I know who works as an escort. Unless you work in that specific industry or have dealings with the revenue regarding this issue, how would you know Kat? And in regards to using my quote back at me, you may find that my posts were neither bitter, not twisted, but factual and informative. So I am led to believe that your grasp on the English language is either not very good or you are clutching at straws in order to issue some sort of insult to me. YOu failed miserably, and I am only led to wonder why you are so appear to have taking this disccssion so seriously and quite frankly reacted rather in a way which indicates it has struck a nerve within you. Your personal issues with working ladies are not at question here. We were discussing whethere it is appropriate or not, and dispelling some of the ill founded myths and ideas ignorant people seem to cling onto.
As said previously Emma I myself have dealings with the Social Security and the Inland Revenue regarding tax, self employed status, and vat issues etc.. No I don't and neither would wish to have dealings with regard to prostitutes or should i say sex therapists.......You amaze me as a woman that actually works and pays tax. Or don't you pay tax...Why do you have the need to advertise the fact that your life is so called perfect that was never the issue...I could say the same but I don't need to advertise the fact...
So if you lost your job that's probably what you would do then is it seeing that you agree with it...Would you recommend it to your children as an occupation then?? I have no intention of insulting yourself but you must understand Emma that it is still frowned upon in general...You work within this sector. We don't and I'm sorry why should a woman think its right to open her legs or whatever and sell herself for money....My grasp on the English Language is enough to get me by I have no need to clutch at straws...You seem to be defending yourself immensly...I personally think that it's you that has the problem as we are merely voicing our opinion...
With regard to your answers regarding the comments makes me come to the question...
Are you perhaps related to "Sally" ....
Why the need to try and defend this so called "occupation"..
The way you have portrayed yourself is that you might have more to do with the whole issue of exchanging mutual services between consenting adults as you are making out...
Come on Emma then discuss the "issue" here make us believe that it could be the new generation profession ...not a load of long winded bull.... !!
Posted by: Emma on 2:33pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Yes Kat, I am a proffessional woman who pays tax. I am simply saying, that I myself do not have a problem if a woman chooses to sell her body. In earlier points raised by someone in this thread, they mentioned working ladies not paying tax.I was merely pointing out that in my proffessional experience (and not from selling my body I might add) I know that these ladies do pay tax, and are registered as self employed. No i do not find it offensive or immoral. I do however understand that society will never understand nor tolerate this proffession, although it is becoming more and more integrated into modern society irrelevent of what you may think. I certainly would not recommend this proffession to my children, or anyone else's children. It's not a life style i would choose, nor want my children to be part of, however I would not think any diffently, or badly of anyone who works in that proffession.
Much to my amusement at your comments, I am not related to Sally, nor am I her tax man :) but I do sympathise with her, and respect her descicion to live out her life in the manner she chooses. She is not hurting anyone, and in actual fact probably ridding the streets of sexual devients. To be honest, I'm sure there are alot of people in this modern world who aren't really that offended by this proffession, it's just that society as a whole refuses to accept and acknowklege a proffession that has been in existence since the dawn of time. I merely have no qualms with voicing my opinion. Were we talking about drug dealers, or rapists or theives, my opinion would be totally different. But we are not. I never once tried to make anyone believe it could be the "new generation profession" as I don't belive myself that it could be. It's a profession i'm sure no one chooses to get into. And if they do, well that is their choice. But if people are clean, respectful, and discreet how can they be condemed when they are doing no harm?
Yes Kat, I am a proffessional woman who pays tax. I am simply saying, that I myself do not have a problem if a woman chooses to sell her body. In earlier points raised by someone in this thread, they mentioned working ladies not paying tax.I was merely pointing out that in my proffessional experience (and not from selling my body I might add) I know that these ladies do pay tax, and are registered as self employed. No i do not find it offensive or immoral. I do however understand that society will never understand nor tolerate this proffession, although it is becoming more and more integrated into modern society irrelevent of what you may think. I certainly would not recommend this proffession to my children, or anyone else's children. It's not a life style i would choose, nor want my children to be part of, however I would not think any diffently, or badly of anyone who works in that proffession.
Much to my amusement at your comments, I am not related to Sally, nor am I her tax man :) but I do sympathise with her, and respect her descicion to live out her life in the manner she chooses. She is not hurting anyone, and in actual fact probably ridding the streets of sexual devients. To be honest, I'm sure there are alot of people in this modern world who aren't really that offended by this proffession, it's just that society as a whole refuses to accept and acknowklege a proffession that has been in existence since the dawn of time. I merely have no qualms with voicing my opinion. Were we talking about drug dealers, or rapists or theives, my opinion would be totally different. But we are not. I never once tried to make anyone believe it could be the "new generation profession" as I don't belive myself that it could be. It's a profession i'm sure no one chooses to get into. And if they do, well that is their choice. But if people are clean, respectful, and discreet how can they be condemed when they are doing no harm?
Posted by: the undertaker, crays hill on 2:58pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sherry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Biffo123[/bold] wrote: Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.[/quote] "All women demand some kind of payment for sex" OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me. EEW, I'd rather be naked![/quote] Or just in a robe....! :)
Sherry wrote:
Biffo123 wrote: Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.
"All women demand some kind of payment for sex" OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me. EEW, I'd rather be naked!
Or just in a robe....! :)
Posted by: Andy, Grays on 3:02pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Emma i think you must live in Cuckoo Land...i'm sure i've seen the sign for it on the A13!!..Your reply to the last post is a load of bull..Do you really believe these people pay tax? are you really that gullible? is that what Sally told you or are you really Sally trying to convince any government agencies that might be reading that this is all above board. How on earth you can describe a quick hows your father as marriage counselling and saving relationships is beyond me!! At the end of the day if a bloke is looking to cheat these women provide a service, it's supply and demand end of story, theres no comebacks, they're not going to get jealous and make that phone call to the partner. They are cheap and cheerful get one done as quick as possible and move on to the next one. That is not counselling that is not saving marriages. Your article is at best very naive perhaps you should balance it out with another article on the downside and not portray it as a good career choice saving people. As for front page news?????
Emma i think you must live in Cuckoo Land...i'm sure i've seen the sign for it on the A13!!..Your reply to the last post is a load of bull..Do you really believe these people pay tax? are you really that gullible? is that what Sally told you or are you really Sally trying to convince any government agencies that might be reading that this is all above board. How on earth you can describe a quick hows your father as marriage counselling and saving relationships is beyond me!! At the end of the day if a bloke is looking to cheat these women provide a service, it's supply and demand end of story, theres no comebacks, they're not going to get jealous and make that phone call to the partner. They are cheap and cheerful get one done as quick as possible and move on to the next one. That is not counselling that is not saving marriages. Your article is at best very naive perhaps you should balance it out with another article on the downside and not portray it as a good career choice saving people. As for front page news?????
Posted by: the undertaker, crays hill on 3:06pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Lulu was a prostitute, but she didn't want her grandma to know. One day, the police raided a whole group of prostitutes at a sex party in a hotel, and Lulu was among them. The police took them outside and had all the prostitutes line up along the driveway when suddenly, Lulu's grandma came by and saw her granddaughter.
Grandma asked, "Why are you standing in line here, dear?"
Not willing to let her grandmother know the truth, Lulu told her grandmother that the policemen were there passing out free oranges and she was just lining up for some.
"Why, that's awfully nice of them. I think I'll get some for myself," and she proceeded to the back of the line.
A policeman was going down the line asking for information from all of the prostitutes.
When he got to Grandma, he was bewildered ! and exclaimed "Wow, still going at it at your age? How do you do it? "
"I just take my dentures out, rip the skin back and suck them dry."..
The policeman fainted.
Lulu was a prostitute, but she didn't want her grandma to know. One day, the police raided a whole group of prostitutes at a sex party in a hotel, and Lulu was among them. The police took them outside and had all the prostitutes line up along the driveway when suddenly, Lulu's grandma came by and saw her granddaughter.
Grandma asked, "Why are you standing in line here, dear?"
Not willing to let her grandmother know the truth, Lulu told her grandmother that the policemen were there passing out free oranges and she was just lining up for some.
"Why, that's awfully nice of them. I think I'll get some for myself," and she proceeded to the back of the line.
A policeman was going down the line asking for information from all of the prostitutes.
When he got to Grandma, he was bewildered ! and exclaimed "Wow, still going at it at your age? How do you do it? "
"I just take my dentures out, rip the skin back and suck them dry."..
The policeman fainted.
Posted by: Andy, Grays on 3:35pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!!
Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!!
Posted by: Partyboy, Saarfend on 4:01pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sherry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nicola Carletti[/bold] wrote: Sorry Ian, you must be one of the FEW men who disagree with this 'job' - and as for you Emma, i take you a wh@re too - and if not, then a POTENTIAL one.. ciao[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] I think Emma is a man, no woman would write this, "all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way" That's terrible :( [/quote] It is terrible, But I bet some women do use sex as an advantage. Im sure Heather Mills would be a prime example of this. (Please dont sue me Heather)
Sherry wrote:
Nicola Carletti wrote: Sorry Ian, you must be one of the FEW men who disagree with this 'job' - and as for you Emma, i take you a wh@re too - and if not, then a POTENTIAL one.. ciao
I think Emma is a man, no woman would write this, "all you demanding girlfriends and wifes eventually make your other halves pay for it, be it in clothes, attention, time, or any other way" That's terrible :(
It is terrible, But I bet some women do use sex as an advantage. Im sure Heather Mills would be a prime example of this. (Please dont sue me Heather)
Posted by: the undertaker, crays hill on 4:57pm Tue 25 Mar 08
She would'nt have a leg to stand on...!
She would'nt have a leg to stand on...!
Posted by: Sherry, At work :( on 5:00pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!![/quote] Oldies are always the best, i love them, and they cheer me up! Trouble is, EVERY time i put the washing in i think of one of his jokes now ;)
Andy wrote:
Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!!
Oldies are always the best, i love them, and they cheer me up! Trouble is, EVERY time i put the washing in i think of one of his jokes now ;)
Posted by: Partyboy, Saarfend on 5:03pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]the undertaker[/bold] wrote:
She would'nt have a leg to stand on...![/quote] Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked.
'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!'
the undertaker wrote:
She would'nt have a leg to stand on...!
Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked.
'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!'
Posted by: Sherry, At work :( on 5:05pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Partyboy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]the undertaker[/bold] wrote: She would'nt have a leg to stand on...![/quote] Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked. 'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!' [/quote] lol, you two are terrible :)
Partyboy wrote:
the undertaker wrote: She would'nt have a leg to stand on...!
Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked. 'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!'
lol, you two are terrible :)
Posted by: steeve, southend on 5:26pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Live and let live!! how judgemental so many comments are this womans life is hers and is she actually setting out to do harm??? what does her life mean to her this is the phenomenological reasons that she has the values that she does why impose on her these judgemental views??
Live and let live!! how judgemental so many comments are this womans life is hers and is she actually setting out to do harm??? what does her life mean to her this is the phenomenological reasons that she has the values that she does why impose on her these judgemental views??
Posted by: Nicola, SA on 5:34pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[bold]Oh Local Boy, Oh Local Boy... wot u a LOCAL of - SOUTHEND FLATS... lmao![/bold]
Oh Local Boy, Oh Local Boy... wot u a LOCAL of - SOUTHEND FLATS... lmao! Posted by: the undertaker, crays hill on 5:38pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Partyboy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]the undertaker[/bold] wrote: She would'nt have a leg to stand on...![/quote] Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked. 'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!' [/quote] Paul mcartney came home one xmas and shouted to heather, " i have bought you a plane for xmas" she replied; i cant fly .
I know that he said , its to smooth your leg.
Partyboy wrote:
the undertaker wrote: She would'nt have a leg to stand on...!
Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked. 'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!'
Paul mcartney came home one xmas and shouted to heather, " i have bought you a plane for xmas" she replied; i cant fly .
I know that he said , its to smooth your leg.
Posted by: the undertaker, crays hill on 5:41pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sherry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote: Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!![/quote] Oldies are always the best, i love them, and they cheer me up! Trouble is, EVERY time i put the washing in i think of one of his jokes now ;)[/quote] I clip my nails....!:)
Sherry wrote:
Andy wrote: Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!!
Oldies are always the best, i love them, and they cheer me up! Trouble is, EVERY time i put the washing in i think of one of his jokes now ;)
I clip my nails....!:)
Posted by: Sherry, At work :( on 5:45pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]the undertaker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Partyboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]the undertaker[/bold] wrote: She would'nt have a leg to stand on...![/quote] Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked. 'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!' [/quote] Paul mcartney came home one xmas and shouted to heather, " i have bought you a plane for xmas" she replied; i cant fly . I know that he said , its to smooth your leg.[/quote] Oh why don't you two work with me?, i could swap you for Dr Bunsen Honeydew and The Great Gonzo :)
the undertaker wrote:
Partyboy wrote: the undertaker wrote: She would'nt have a leg to stand on...!
Outside court the paparazzi approach Sir Paul 'Sir Paul, Would you ever go down on one knee again?' they asked. 'Definitely not!' replied Sir Paul. 'And I would prefer it if you called her Heather!!!'
Paul mcartney came home one xmas and shouted to heather, " i have bought you a plane for xmas" she replied; i cant fly . I know that he said , its to smooth your leg.
Oh why don't you two work with me?, i could swap you for Dr Bunsen Honeydew and The Great Gonzo :)
Posted by: Citizen 139 on 6:48pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nicola[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Oh Local Boy, Oh Local Boy... wot u a LOCAL of - SOUTHEND FLATS... lmao![/bold] [/quote] Can anyone translate this please? I really don't understand chav talk.
Nicola wrote:
Oh Local Boy, Oh Local Boy... wot u a LOCAL of - SOUTHEND FLATS... lmao!
Can anyone translate this please? I really don't understand chav talk.
Posted by: Andy, Grays on 7:10pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]steeve[/bold] wrote:
Live and let live!! how judgemental so many comments are this womans life is hers and is she actually setting out to do harm??? what does her life mean to her this is the phenomenological reasons that she has the values that she does why impose on her these judgemental views??[/quote] I think steeve that you'll find that no one is being judgemental it is the fact that this journalist has made what she does out to be some sort of public service, which it isn't. What it is is seedy the other point is which gets most normal working peoples goat is that she does what she does maybe claims maybe doesn't but what she doesn't do is pay tax. Registered as self employed?? Do me a favour!!!...Are you a punter by any chance?
steeve wrote:
Live and let live!! how judgemental so many comments are this womans life is hers and is she actually setting out to do harm??? what does her life mean to her this is the phenomenological reasons that she has the values that she does why impose on her these judgemental views??
I think steeve that you'll find that no one is being judgemental it is the fact that this journalist has made what she does out to be some sort of public service, which it isn't. What it is is seedy the other point is which gets most normal working peoples goat is that she does what she does maybe claims maybe doesn't but what she doesn't do is pay tax. Registered as self employed?? Do me a favour!!!...Are you a punter by any chance?
Posted by: Nicola, SA on 7:12pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Andy, help a gurl out here - wots a CHAV ? ? isnt is one of them East End ppl who where LOADS of gold and talk weird.. lol
Andy, help a gurl out here - wots a CHAV ? ? isnt is one of them East End ppl who where LOADS of gold and talk weird.. lol
Posted by: Nicola, SA on 7:14pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Lol - gosh that chap made me laugh so much, i cant spell... ME - a CHAV... have you eva! !
Lol - gosh that chap made me laugh so much, i cant spell... ME - a CHAV... have you eva! !
Posted by: Kat, Grays on 7:32pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Nicola dearest you have been referred to as council estate scum ....But then again maybe he hasn't been out of the county of Essex!! And lived a life beyond his so called citizen 139 status...I'm sure he hiself could enlighten you what the definition of what a CHAV is ....
Nicola dearest you have been referred to as council estate scum ....But then again maybe he hasn't been out of the county of Essex!! And lived a life beyond his so called citizen 139 status...I'm sure he hiself could enlighten you what the definition of what a CHAV is ....
Posted by: Nicola, SA on 8:03pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Thanks Kat.. I think I am a bit toooooooo South in the Hemisphere to be referred to as a Chav.. We dont have Council Estates here, we have dung and stone huts, have lions, zebra's and elephants as pets and sand roads.. but we dont have no CHAV's here..
Thanks Kat.. I think I am a bit toooooooo South in the Hemisphere to be referred to as a Chav.. We dont have Council Estates here, we have dung and stone huts, have lions, zebra's and elephants as pets and sand roads.. but we dont have no CHAV's here..
Posted by: Andy, Grays on 8:12pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Don't worry Nicola you've got a couple coming your way very soon. Don't you have council cleaners to clean up all the elephant and lion dung?
Don't worry Nicola you've got a couple coming your way very soon. Don't you have council cleaners to clean up all the elephant and lion dung?
Posted by: Nicola, SA on 8:18pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Yeah Andy, we got them here... but we still aint got none chav's - arent they them ppl on Little Britain.. hahahahaha.. yeah, but, yeah, but yeah!
Yeah Andy, we got them here... but we still aint got none chav's - arent they them ppl on Little Britain.. hahahahaha.. yeah, but, yeah, but yeah!
Posted by: Sheena Alexander, essex on 8:53pm Tue 25 Mar 08
As a teenage girl in todays society i find condoning this sort of excuse for prostitution absolutly disgusting. No wonder girls my age are taking this route in life because of the way it is being protrayed as a everyday job and that it is ok. It's most deffinatly not and no-one should resort to this as a way of fending for there families, poverty or any other reason. There is no liab le excuse, if you want to have four children then you should make sure you can look after your children not just having as man **** they want and then giving us some sob story. I no this and im only 18. And as for a marriage counsellor, dont they have proffessional educated people to do this? That have studied for years and actually know what there talking about? Yes they do. Not some common women with 6 children of an estate trying to claim having sex with men and a career.
[bold]EMMA[/bold] also for you to think prostitution is ok is disgusting you have no respect for yourself and are not a rolemodel for the younger generation of females. To be perfectly honest what sort of mother are you going to be with those values? I wouldn't want you as a mother!!!
As a teenage girl in todays society i find condoning this sort of excuse for prostitution absolutly disgusting. No wonder girls my age are taking this route in life because of the way it is being protrayed as a everyday job and that it is ok. It's most deffinatly not and no-one should resort to this as a way of fending for there families, poverty or any other reason. There is no liab le excuse, if you want to have four children then you should make sure you can look after your children not just having as man **** they want and then giving us some sob story. I no this and im only 18. And as for a marriage counsellor, dont they have proffessional educated people to do this? That have studied for years and actually know what there talking about? Yes they do. Not some common women with 6 children of an estate trying to claim having sex with men and a career.
EMMA also for you to think prostitution is ok is disgusting you have no respect for yourself and are not a rolemodel for the younger generation of females. To be perfectly honest what sort of mother are you going to be with those values? I wouldn't want you as a mother!!!
Posted by: steve on 9:13pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sherry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Biffo123[/bold] wrote: Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.[/quote] "All women demand some kind of payment for sex" OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me. EEW, I'd rather be naked![/quote] It's a pity more girls don't think like you Sherry.
All I can say is Your partner must be one lucky man.
Sherry wrote:
Biffo123 wrote: Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.
"All women demand some kind of payment for sex" OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me. EEW, I'd rather be naked!
It's a pity more girls don't think like you Sherry.
All I can say is Your partner must be one lucky man.
Posted by: Arthur Bollockacke on 10:14pm Tue 25 Mar 08
I went when my Doreen died, thought i was gonna get some relationship advice but all i got was an itchy willy.
I went when my Doreen died, thought i was gonna get some relationship advice but all i got was an itchy willy.
Posted by: Sara, Basildon on 10:31pm Tue 25 Mar 08
She's being checked out regulary, She isn't on drugs, She has helped people, There is nothing wrong with what she is doing. You guys are too narrow minded to comprehend it's ok. prostitution was the first ever profession. Why do people always have something negative to say about someone elses life?? Pathetic, focus on your own before bad mouthing others.
She's being checked out regulary, She isn't on drugs, She has helped people, There is nothing wrong with what she is doing. You guys are too narrow minded to comprehend it's ok. prostitution was the first ever profession. Why do people always have something negative to say about someone elses life?? Pathetic, focus on your own before bad mouthing others.
Posted by: Andy, Grays on 11:31pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Sara i think you've missd the point totally. No one really has an issue with what your friend does, help people?, hmm i doubt it but thats not the point, what has annoyed everyone here is that the person who wrote the article has glamourised prostitution and you can dress it up all you want would your friend or you be over the moon if your kids came home and proudly announced they wanted to be a prostitute???...no i don't think so. Most women get into it out of desperation not because it's a great career path.
Sara i think you've missd the point totally. No one really has an issue with what your friend does, help people?, hmm i doubt it but thats not the point, what has annoyed everyone here is that the person who wrote the article has glamourised prostitution and you can dress it up all you want would your friend or you be over the moon if your kids came home and proudly announced they wanted to be a prostitute???...no i don't think so. Most women get into it out of desperation not because it's a great career path.
Posted by: Citizen 139 on 11:43pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kat[/bold] wrote:
Nicola dearest you have been referred to as council estate scum ....But then again maybe he hasn't been out of the county of Essex!! And lived a life beyond his so called citizen 139 status...I'm sure he hiself could enlighten you what the definition of what a CHAV is ....
[/quote] My dearest Kat, I've liven in America, Barbados, Sweden & Spain. Can you even pronounce those countries?
Chav - Council House And Violent :)
Kat wrote:
Nicola dearest you have been referred to as council estate scum ....But then again maybe he hasn't been out of the county of Essex!! And lived a life beyond his so called citizen 139 status...I'm sure he hiself could enlighten you what the definition of what a CHAV is ....
My dearest Kat, I've liven in America, Barbados, Sweden & Spain. Can you even pronounce those countries?
Chav - Council House And Violent :)
Posted by: Andy, Grays on 12:23am Wed 26 Mar 08
Oh dear Citizen you've lived in all those different countries experienced all those different cultures seen all those different sights and thats all you can come up with!! whats that at the bottom a threat????....sorry i'll be ok in a minute...no hold on...no nearly...ok i've stopped laughing carry on
Oh dear Citizen you've lived in all those different countries experienced all those different cultures seen all those different sights and thats all you can come up with!! whats that at the bottom a threat????....sorry i'll be ok in a minute...no hold on...no nearly...ok i've stopped laughing carry on
Posted by: Kim Gandy, Rayleigh on 4:20am Wed 26 Mar 08
I wish saving your country from the tyranny of this government produced as much passion.
My view is that some people on here are right. Prostitution isn't just about escort girls.
What about dirty old men that import Thai wives. Are you telling me that some 25 year old dusky beauty is REALLY interested in some ageing swinger?
Essex is full of designer-clad women driving big cars and living off their husbands' fat paypackets.
I know of one such who came from abroad. She was working as a cleaner when he lived in her country with his then wife. He dumped the wife and brought the cleaner back with him.
She now drives a flash car and is covered from head to toe in designer bling.
Tell me THAT isn't prostitution.
And a lot of these women send money back home to their families.
Many British men claim they do it because these women are better at - guess what - sex.
In fact they are just subservient and will put up with more cr@p than British women. That's all.
Oh and they're better housekeepers apparently.
It doesn't work in a lot of cases though because quite a few of them marry gullible British men then divorce them for fat settlements.
Not daft eh?
I wish saving your country from the tyranny of this government produced as much passion.
My view is that some people on here are right. Prostitution isn't just about escort girls.
What about dirty old men that import Thai wives. Are you telling me that some 25 year old dusky beauty is REALLY interested in some ageing swinger?
Essex is full of designer-clad women driving big cars and living off their husbands' fat paypackets.
I know of one such who came from abroad. She was working as a cleaner when he lived in her country with his then wife. He dumped the wife and brought the cleaner back with him.
She now drives a flash car and is covered from head to toe in designer bling.
Tell me THAT isn't prostitution.
And a lot of these women send money back home to their families.
Many British men claim they do it because these women are better at - guess what - sex.
In fact they are just subservient and will put up with more cr@p than British women. That's all.
Oh and they're better housekeepers apparently.
It doesn't work in a lot of cases though because quite a few of them marry gullible British men then divorce them for fat settlements.
Not daft eh?
Posted by: Sherry, At work :( on 10:26am Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]the undertaker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote: Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!![/quote] Oldies are always the best, i love them, and they cheer me up! Trouble is, EVERY time i put the washing in i think of one of his jokes now ;)[/quote] I clip my nails....!:)[/quote] Cool chat up line ;)
the undertaker wrote:
Sherry wrote: Andy wrote: Undertaker, an oldie but a goodie!!!
Oldies are always the best, i love them, and they cheer me up! Trouble is, EVERY time i put the washing in i think of one of his jokes now ;)
I clip my nails....!:)
Cool chat up line ;)
Posted by: Sherry, At work :( on 10:34am Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]steve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Biffo123[/bold] wrote: Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.[/quote] "All women demand some kind of payment for sex" OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me. EEW, I'd rather be naked![/quote] It's a pity more girls don't think like you Sherry. All I can say is Your partner must be one lucky man.[/quote] Well it's really sad if someone is only staying with a person because of what they can get out of them. There's nothing worse than being used and betrayed :(
steve wrote:
Sherry wrote: Biffo123 wrote: Whore maybe, human being, definitely. Sally's situation seems to have been desperate, and impelled some kind of action. It is not what many choose, but at least she did something. All women demand some kind of payment for sex (darling, I need a new dress...) and all men pay for it in some way. At least this method is straightforward and somehow honest. Give the lass a break.
"All women demand some kind of payment for sex" OMG, i can't believe you wrote that, and it doesn't really say much for you does it. I take it you have never been in a true loving relationship. If i wanted a dress i'd go out and buy it, i wouldn't have to spread my legs for it, or rely on some lecher like you to get it for me. EEW, I'd rather be naked!
It's a pity more girls don't think like you Sherry. All I can say is Your partner must be one lucky man.
Well it's really sad if someone is only staying with a person because of what they can get out of them. There's nothing worse than being used and betrayed :(
Posted by: chaz, southend on 11:49am Wed 26 Mar 08
[bold]bold[/bold] biggest load of sh..it ive ever heard..the woman is deluded...she needs help and by the sound if it urgently...good example to her kids..
biggest load of sh..it ive ever heard..the woman is deluded...she needs help and by the sound if it urgently...good example to her kids..
Posted by: chaz, southend on 11:50am Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nick BURTON[/bold] wrote:
[bold]I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role.[/bold] [/quote] you're almost as deluded as she is !!
Nick BURTON wrote:
I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role.
you're almost as deluded as she is !!
Posted by: Nicola, SA on 12:33pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chaz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nick BURTON[/bold] wrote: [bold]I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role.[/bold] [/quote] you\'re almost as deluded as she is !![/quote] I agree Chaz - Nick.. this 'person' can most certainly [bold]not[/bold] be described as a LADY.
chaz wrote:
Nick BURTON wrote: I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role.
you\'re almost as deluded as she is !!
I agree Chaz - Nick.. this 'person' can most certainly
not be described as a LADY.
Posted by: Nicola, SA on 1:13pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chaz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nick BURTON[/bold] wrote: [bold]I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role.[/bold] [/quote] you\'re almost as deluded as she is !![/quote] Chaz - u absolutely right ! ! - um, Nick, do you have any idea what a LADY actualy is.. sorry, but this 'person' Sally certainly aint NO [bold]LADY[/bold] ...
chaz wrote:
Nick BURTON wrote: I think this young lady is a very genuine and does perform a usefull role.
you\'re almost as deluded as she is !!
Chaz - u absolutely right ! ! - um, Nick, do you have any idea what a LADY actualy is.. sorry, but this 'person' Sally certainly aint NO
LADY ...
Posted by: BobotheClown, 257-531 on 1:13pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sara[/bold] wrote:
She\'s being checked out regulary, She isn\'t on drugs, She has helped people, There is nothing wrong with what she is doing. You guys are too narrow minded to comprehend it\'s ok. prostitution was the first ever profession. Why do people always have something negative to say about someone elses life?? Pathetic, focus on your own before bad mouthing others.[/quote] Sara, Are you perhaps one of these so called "ladies" too ? Lazy, common and probably full of diseases and claiming benefit I assume. Help people? Who has she helped then? You ?
Sara wrote:
She\'s being checked out regulary, She isn\'t on drugs, She has helped people, There is nothing wrong with what she is doing. You guys are too narrow minded to comprehend it\'s ok. prostitution was the first ever profession. Why do people always have something negative to say about someone elses life?? Pathetic, focus on your own before bad mouthing others.
Sara, Are you perhaps one of these so called "ladies" too ? Lazy, common and probably full of diseases and claiming benefit I assume. Help people? Who has she helped then? You ?
Posted by: val, benfleet on 1:26pm Wed 26 Mar 08
She says, "I save marriages" but she can't even save her own marriage, what a joke!
She says, "I save marriages" but she can't even save her own marriage, what a joke!
Posted by: Lucy, southend on 1:28pm Wed 26 Mar 08
what about the marriages they destroy?
what about the marriages they destroy?
Posted by: Ladylover, Lovin a lady on 2:33pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I dont see how she can get much business with the old Talk and festival leisure park stoinkers gagging for it. If it's experience you want just pull a fat bird. They are game for anything :)
I dont see how she can get much business with the old Talk and festival leisure park stoinkers gagging for it. If it's experience you want just pull a fat bird. They are game for anything :)
